I see, so you're saying (in answer to rif's question of why you _feel_ there should be a bright sharp line between person and un-person at the moment of birth) if because legally that's the way it is.

I wasn't actually debating the legal issue, though I do think that things are complicated enough that boiling it down do a bright line and a one sentence slogan misses a lot of important stuff.

As to what degree of self-determination *does* a person have over their own body, my guess is that legally the answer is currently quite a lot, but less than 100%. (Though I think Cael was pondering replacing "does" with "should.")