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kirisutogomen ([personal profile] kirisutogomen) wrote2011-09-28 03:03 am

Chinese advertisements

The answer is the tag, rot13'd, but to save you the trouble, I'll tell you. First, the original ad before I mucked with it. (Yes, it was left-right mirrored like most people guessed. I'm still curious as to why among people who are entirely illiterate in Han characters the mirroring was blatantly obvious to some and not at all to others.)




And another for the same service from a competing provider:



These are ads for abortion clinics. Chinese abortion clinics advertise on prime-time television. They offer student discounts. Not sure if they have special holiday sales, nor if you get abortion coupons with your newspaper.

Now, unless you take the position that a fetus at any stage has the moral standing of a lintball but that magically at the moment the head crowns it suddenly becomes a full human person endowed with a complete set of inalienable rights plus a stylish carrying case, there's got to be a point at which you say, "Hrm. My liberal sensibilities tell me that I should advocate fiercely for a woman's right to choose, but I don't actually want people to treat abortion like a trip to the hair salon. What does my victory condition actually look like?"

And then there's the issue of sex selection, which really kicks over a Pandora's hornets' nest of other issues.

[identity profile] astra-nomer.livejournal.com 2011-09-28 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, I'm pretty certain I have absolutely no idea why a woman would choose to have a late-term abortion

The vast majority of late-term abortions happen when either
1) a horrible defect is discovered in the fetus
2) the health and/or life of the mother becomes at risk

This is why I am opposed to any bans on late-term abortion.
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[personal profile] dcltdw 2011-09-28 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the info! Yay, learned something today.

[identity profile] twe.livejournal.com 2011-09-29 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I really don't get why anyone opposes abortions when the mother's life is at risk. I feel that ought to fall under "self-defense."

[identity profile] psychohist.livejournal.com 2011-09-29 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
The mother's life is at risk to some degree in any birth, even if it is a fraction of a percent in normal cases. I think those that oppose it generally feel it will be, in their view, abused to permit what is effectively abortion on demand.