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kirisutogomen ([personal profile] kirisutogomen) wrote2011-09-28 03:03 am

Chinese advertisements

The answer is the tag, rot13'd, but to save you the trouble, I'll tell you. First, the original ad before I mucked with it. (Yes, it was left-right mirrored like most people guessed. I'm still curious as to why among people who are entirely illiterate in Han characters the mirroring was blatantly obvious to some and not at all to others.)




And another for the same service from a competing provider:



These are ads for abortion clinics. Chinese abortion clinics advertise on prime-time television. They offer student discounts. Not sure if they have special holiday sales, nor if you get abortion coupons with your newspaper.

Now, unless you take the position that a fetus at any stage has the moral standing of a lintball but that magically at the moment the head crowns it suddenly becomes a full human person endowed with a complete set of inalienable rights plus a stylish carrying case, there's got to be a point at which you say, "Hrm. My liberal sensibilities tell me that I should advocate fiercely for a woman's right to choose, but I don't actually want people to treat abortion like a trip to the hair salon. What does my victory condition actually look like?"

And then there's the issue of sex selection, which really kicks over a Pandora's hornets' nest of other issues.

[identity profile] psychohist.livejournal.com 2011-09-29 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the reasoning with respect to teratogens is broken when you take abortions into account. Consider, for example, the woman whose abortions is scheduled for next tuesday going on an alcoholic binge the preceding weekend. No baby will exist to be harmed, so where is the justification for locking the woman up?

It seems to me that in principle, the more ethically sound solution is to accept that any baby subsequently born from the pregnancy may have a cause of action against its mother. The standards could be the same as for any normal civil suit.